Showing posts with label giugiaro. Show all posts
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Restored 1980 Volkswagen Scirocco
The first generation Scirocco was a touchy car, treading on holy ground by replacing the beloved rear-engine Karmann Ghia. But Volkswagen had already made its mind up, anticipating legislation that would outlaw rear engines altogether as well as feeling the air-cooled 4-cylinder couldn't be perfected any further (Porsche went through a similar crossroads that resulted in development of the 928).
All of it was rather anticlimactic. The law wasn't passed, and consumers still pined for rear-engine cars. But it was too late. The rear-engine lineup was gone. Fortunately, Volkswagen tapped styling legend Giugiaro to craft great-looking new bodies. If it was going to be front-engine and front-wheel drive, at least it was going to look state-of-the-art. Such is the Scirocco, which is basically a sleeker, sexier Golf.
The first generation is particularly notable for its quad round headlights and spartan interior. Just this year, Hagerty Classic Car Insurance has rated the Mk I Scirocco as nearly extinct. I've seen them pop up here and there, but as they rust out, get driven into the ground, sold for scrap they are definitely harder and harder to come by each year.
Fortunately, this example has been given some love by the seller, who says they hate to sell but are moving. They've refreshed it cosmetically and mechanically, and says it now runs well and comes with a clean title.
If you have your heart set on the Scirocco but don't want one that requires work (as the few left usually do), this is an increasingly unique opportunity to acquire one that seems ready to go.
Available here on ebay with a Buy It Now of $3,750.
Lost Giugiaro: 1984 Isuzu Impulse
I love the Impulse! This is a forgotten chapter in Isuzu history. Today, the company has been reduced to selling commercial diesel trucks in the US. But during the Japanese Invasion of the 80s, Isuzu was striving to stand out against a crowded field of competitors like Toyota, Honda, Nissan and Subaru.
I give them a lot of credit for trying. They specialized in small, efficient cars but weren't afraid to take design risks. One such was the Impulse, otherwise known as the Piazza outside of North America.
Isuzu commissioned legendary designer Giorgio Giugiaro to style a new sporty coupe for them in the late 70s. The result was the Piazza/Impulse. It was classic Giugiaro: simple two-box design, long hood, sloping rear hatchback, flat simple planes, sharp edges and square shapes. If you appreciate modern design, you appreciate Giugiaro and the Impulse.
The car debuted in 1980 but wasn't available in the US until 1983. Unfortunately by that point, the entry level two door rear wheel drive segment was very competitive. The Impulse was initially only offered with a naturally aspirated 2.0-liter 4-cylinder, then gained a turbocharger and fancy Lotus suspension in later years. Production ended around 1990.
This is a nice early example with the basic 4-cylinder engine mated to an automatic transmission. The seller doesn't say much about the condition except it runs and drives. The car was obviously used a lot. A photo of the odometer shows it reading 140,636. The engine compartment, accessible through a cool front-hinged hood, looks decent and tidy enough. The exterior clear coat and rubber look worn, although what appear to be the sweet original alloys are a huge plus.
Inside, the cloth seats are torn, but the dash looks intact. These had cool adjustable steering wheels that moved the instrument cluster with them for maximum visibility.
The seller does say they have lowered the price down to $2,500, which is a good deal provided the car runs ok, has some maintenance history and no rust. This could become a daily driver, but would be nice to restore sooner or later, with fresh paint, mechanical going over and fixed upholstery. Japanese cars of the 80s and early 90s are the new up and coming classics, and mean a lot to the twenty and thirty-something crowd today. This car is a cool, easily obtainable new classic that can function as transportation and a piece of auto history. Not bad.
Available here on craigslist.
1985 Maserati Quattroporte Euro
The Quattroporte was Maserati's attempt to steal the ultimate luxury car crown from Mercedes-Benz in the eighties. It almost worked. The body was designed by none other than the legendary Giugiaro and the engine was an large and powerful V8. The car looked more modern and edgy than anything Mercedes was putting out, too, but was just as luxuriously appointed on the inside.
There were actually two previous generations of Quattroporte before this one debuted in 1979 and continued until 1990, resulting in a mere 2,155 units being produced, making this a rarity. It was conceived after the company's takeover by Alejandro de Tomaso (of the De Tomaso Pantera), and while not a success with that low volume number, did leave an impression in the minds of many, especially after it appeared in movies and on tv shows as the bad guy's ride.
Giugiaro's body is classic, and fits into his impressive portfolio of clean straight lines and hard edges. The thick and sloping c-pillar was no doubt influential and is especially seen on today's cars as they get more and more windswept back and over.
Underneath the hood was either a 4,136 cc V8 producing 238-255 horsepower, or a larger 4,930 unit that produced 280 hp, very healthy for the time and still respectable today.
Adding to this example's rare factor is that it's a Euro-spec version, with shorter and lighter bumpers, headlight washers and other small but good changes.
The seller says the bought it 4 years ago when it had only 32k miles and are now reporting it has 42k. They say it needs some time to warm up but always starts and the Chrysler transmission shifts well. The do mention the blower doesn't fully work, it needs new trunk shocks, and the a/c doesn't work any longer.
Cosmetically, they said it was repainted in the original color but needs weather striping on all the doors.
For the appreciative eye, this is a rare example of a rare car and seems to be overall well kept and enjoyed. With some tlc it could be ready to hit the Italian exotics circuit in no time.
Available here on ebay in Henrico, Virginia with no reserve bidding at $4,173.
1989 Isuzu Impulse Turbo
This is a collector car in the making that nobody is watching, so there are ample chances to snatch one up for relatively cheap now.
Few were made, fewer were sold, and even fewer survive today. But the car's credentials, history and design are impressive and intriguing. It was conceived and engineered by Isuzu, designed by the legendary Giorgetto Giugiaro and tuned by Lotus. How many cars boast all that? None that I know of.
The Impulse was known as the Piazza outside North America and was produced from 1981-1990, but only sold here from 1983 onward.
Underneath the sleek two-box styling is a 4ZC1 turbocharged, inter-cooled 4-cylinder engine that powered the rear wheels. The seller of this example says it has a 5-speed manual transmission, cloth interior, sunroof and a "technics" radio. Cosmetically it seems to be missing a front grille and the clear coat is fading. Mechanically, they say the driver's side window and power steering pump have issues, but those could be easy do-it-yourself fixes for the knowledgeable.
In a few years there will be a real appetite for the Impulse. Their pedigree speaks volumes, and numbers of survivors have dwindled. On top of that, the rear-wheel setup and turbo boost also make them fun drivers, so they are usable and practical too.
Available here on craigslist in Des Moines, Iowa for $3,500 or best offer.
Clean Bargain 1986 Saab 9000 Turbo
With Saab gone, there's never been a better time to reflect on their contributions to the auto industry over the second half of the 20th century. One of the best was their full-size top of the line 9000 hatchback and sedan.
The bigger sibling to the 900, the 9000 actually came later in 1984 as a way to bring in more buyers to the small Swedish brand. It worked. The 9000 took all the things that made the 900 great - space, styling, versatility and turbo power - and did it better. Over 500,000 units were produced until 1998.
The body by Bjorn Envall and Giorgio Giugiaro is an unrecognized classic. Using the Type Four platform that several automakers agreed to share at the time to reduce costs, the designers created a simple but handsome shape that is ever so slightly more conventional than the 900 but makes up for it in bounds more maturity and class, while still being uniquely Saab. We like the early pre-facelift versions for their rarity, cleaner lines, blackened rear pillars and larger hatch glass.
Although the front-wheel drive platform was disappointing when it was selected for the Alfa Romeo 164, it makes complete sense with the 9000. Saab was never a performance-oriented brand and had always employed front-wheel drive. They were not at the level of the German cars, and yet they had much more character than American or Japanese cars. Underneath the hood of this example is a 2.0-liter 4-cylinder turbocharged engine that produced about 130 horsepower. This one also has a 5-speed stick.
Saab has always done interiors well and the 9000 is no exception; in fact, it's one of their best. The wrap-around dashboard cloaked in black is as aesthetically pleasing as it is functional, with all gauges and readouts crystal clear, simple and easy to use. I remember reading that the dials and buttons were also designed to be usable with gloves on when those frigid Scandinavian winters hit. We also love the pre-airbag three-spoke steering wheel.
This example is the cleanest we've seen in a long time. The seller says it's in excellent condition, runs great and everything works. They say the miles are low but don't provide the actual number. From the photos the body looks remarkably clean and straight. The subtle burgundy paint with a hint of pink-purple is also very flattering to the shape, and is a color nobody has done right since. The alloy centers seem dull but can easily be refinished or just re-painted in spray can silver.
With four doors, big cozy seats, plenty of room in front and back, a huge rear hatchback and turbo power, this is one of those seemingly rare cars that is both fun to drive and extremely useful. The build quality on these old Saabs was also rare in that the doors shut with a satisfying heavy clunk. It's too bad the door was shut on the whole company, but cars like this 9000 are positive reminders of their better days.
Available here on craigslist in Inland Empire, California for a mere $1,700.
Another One: $650 Project 1988 Isuzu Impulse
A reader has sent me another Impulse! This time it's a project that has seen better days. Still, its got that roughed up look thats kinda-dumpy, kinda-cool looking, at least if it were parked under neon lights in a rainstorm. Thanks to Jerry H. for this submission!
For those not in the know, the 1980-1990 ('83 onward in the U.S.) Impulse is a collector classic in the making, if it gets saved from oblivion. Haggerty Insurance has rated them extinct as of two years ago. But the Impulse has all the credentials for a New Modern Classic - two-doors, designer body, rear-wheel drive, sport-oriented engineering, international pedigree.
Styling was courtesy of Giugiaro and is another fine example of his brilliant design philosophy, a dominant force of style for most of the second half of the 20th century. Isuzu handled the engineering. The suspension was courtesy of Lotus (earning the car a plate that boasts "Handling by Lotus").
The seller of this example doesn't say whether it's the coveted turbocharged version, but do mention it has the 2.0-liter 4-cylidner engine under the hood geared to a 5-speed manual transmission.
They say the car runs "real good", but it needs clutch work. They also say the body is nice...so who knows what this really needs. The photos clearly show a scar with poor and uneven paint, no stereo or a/c controls and a big dent in the rear hatch gate. But a quick test drive and carfax will flesh out the rest of the story, at least the mechanical and ownership side.
Other than that, for $650 you get one hell of rare ride. There's plenty of room in that price to use it as a daily driver, then restore it later.
Please somebody treat it nice.
Available here on craigslist in Indianapolis, Indiana for just $650.
1-Owner 1989 Isuzu Impulse Turbo
The Impulse was rated "extinct" by Hagerty Classic Car Insurance two summers ago, based on having no examples insured. That's a shame. The Impulse is a really cool car. And if there were very few left in 2011, you can bet there are even less now, as owners desperate for cash in the global recession just end up junking them.
In the 80s, the Isuzu lineup wasn't yet whittled down to cute-utes and econoboxes (in fact today, it's just two ugly General Motors-based trucks). There was actually depth and range. It included the utilitarian P'up, Trooper, compact I-Mark, and the sporty Impulse, known as the Piazza outside North America.
There are several notable aspects of the Impulse, the first being the deliciously sleek body by none other than Giorgetto Giugiaro. In the 70s and 80s, Giugiaro was THE go-to auto designer for-hire, lending his touch with several groundbreaking designs for major auto manufacturers like Lotus and Volkswagen. For Isuzu, he created a classic two-box shape with several of his trademark cues: long, flat hood, small narrow headlights and sloped rear. With the Impulse, he manages to make it look both fresh and classic. You just don't see these kind of taught and controlled lines and proportions anymore.
The Impulse was produced from 1980-1990, but only sold here from 1983 onward. In 1988 it received special "handling by Lotus" tuned suspensions with new sway bars, stiffer dampers and new spring rates. The engines were all 4-cylinders, but were offered either normally aspirated or turbocharged. Perhaps best of all, power was directed to the rear wheels.
This particular example is a later '89 Turbo and looks perfect in gunmetal grey, with body-colored trim and spoiler. Note the hyper-extended rear windshield wiper. Although it's mated to an automatic transmission, the seller says it has a rebuilt engine, head, and turbo, and has only 29k miles since the rebuild. Cosmetically, they say the body is in good shape. Other than rust and accident history, this puppy could be good to go. Italian styling, British tuning, Japanese engineering.
Available here on craigslist in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania for $2,500.
1984 Lancia Delta GT
One of my favorite dealers is offering up more rarities. This one is a classic two-box design from the 80s, Italy's take on the Volkswagen Golf: the Lancia Delta.
Most Americans don't remember Lancia. They were officially sold here from 1975, until they withdrew in 1982. Some automakers, like BMW and Mercedes, were able to make enormous strides in the 1980s. This wasn't the case for Lancia. Like a lot of Italian automakers at the time, Lancia struggled to forge an modern identity in the 80s. Although once a maker of luscious little coupes and convertibles in the 50s and 60s, they were never really able to build on that, and instead retreated into compact front-wheel drive economy cars.
The 1979-1994 Delta is one such car. But that doesn't make it a bad car.
Styling by Giorgetto Giugiaro is quite nice. European automakers owe so much to Giugiaro. He is one of those few designers who can embrace sports cars (Lotus Esprit, Delorean) economy cars (VW Golf and Scirocco) and sedans (Eagle Premier, Maserati Quattroporte). All wear his distinctive clean, no-nonsense, form-over-function lines. His Golf basically set the template for compact economy cars. Simplistic front-wheel drive. Clean-cut angles and hard corners. Hood, windshield, roof, then hatchback and taillights. That's it. The Delta is basically the same thing, with some minor changes.
The Delta was powered by a range of four-cylinder engines that powered the front-wheels.
The dealer states this is a "GT" model, which would suggest a 1.6-liter four banger is under the hood, giving the car just 104 horsepower. They state it's mated to a manual transmission. They also say it has 118,500 miles on the odometer. Other than that, they give no specifics. It sure looks pretty in yellow, and seems to have no major visible damage. This dealer is located in New Hampshire, and yet the Delta was never officially sold here, and the photos show the car with European plates, presumably in Europe. They are the same folks who advertised this super rare BMW E30 Touring that COTC also spotlighted. How do they get these cars? Are they in Europe, and the buyer has to import them over? Or maybe the importation is included in the price, which would explain why it is so high. So many questions, so few answers. I really ought to give them a friendly call one of these days...
Available here in Plaistow, New Hampshire for $11,595.
Threatened Species: 1976 Volkswagen Scirocco
Hagerty Classic Car Insurance released this fascinating but alarming list of cars once built in great numbers that they now insure very few of.
One of them is the first generation or Mark I Scirocco produced from 1974-1982. Hagerty says they insure fewer than 25 of them.
Well, I found one. This gives new meaning to the term 'survivor'.
The Scirocco was a front-engine, front-wheel drive two-door hatchback with four-cylinder engines.
Perhaps the most notable feature was the lovely styling by Giugiaro from his heyday. It's typically well done, perfect proportions and still cool and fresh looking now. I especially love the quad round headlights which contrast nicely with the angular shape.
The seller says this surviving example has a 1.6-litre 4-cylinder engine, 82k miles, and a 4-speed manual transmission. The later teardrop wheels look good and although the seller says they are keeping them, they say they have the original alloys. Mechanically, the seller says the radiator is missing and the car does not currently run.
Cosmetically, the seller says there is no serious structural rust but there is rot in a few places. Inside, they say the interior is complete and original, but the seats are torn. Still, it's great to see those rare Euro-style plaid seats still with the car.
Unfortunately, the seller says they don't have a title. They say the Pennsylvania DOT lost the title during the last transfer of ownership, but the seller says they have the last registered owner's info. Honestly, if the seller doesn't have a title in their name and never registered the vehicle, they have no authority to sell it unless I'm mistaken. They say they are unsure of what to do, but I can say you'll definitely need a title if you want to ever have this legally on the road again.
This car doesn't run, has rot and no paperwork, which are usually things to avoid, but for the right price (as in under $1k) it could be a good start for a restoration. They aren't many left, after all.
Available here on ebay in Emmaus, Pennsylvania with 7 bids at $256.
Late Giugiaro: 1996 Subaru SVX LSi AWD
The Subaru SVX was one of legendary designer Giugiaro's last major designs for a mainstream auto manufacturer.
SVX stood for "Subaru Vehicle X" and was based off of Giugiaro's concept that debuted at the 1989 Tokyo Auto Show. The concept was a hit and sent to production available in North America in July 1991 as a 1992 model. It replaced the 1985-1991 XT.
While the XT was an exercise in 1980s design themes of pyramidal edges, angles and cuts, the SVX attempted to set a new tone for styling of the 1990s. Giugiaro had been best known for his angular wedge shapes like the 1975 Lotus Esprit, but he always had an eye for simply good design, and towards the end of the 1980s he began to adopt more aerodynamically friendly curves and smooth, minimalist body panels.
The SVX is marked by simple shapes, rounded off corners and as little detail and extraneous flair as possible. The front features a futuristic slim single-peice wrap-around headlight cluster that dips in the center for engine air intake. This theme is mimicked in the rear with a single taillights strip, reminiscent of the Alfa Romeo 164. The hood cowl melds into the side mirrors. All pillars are covered by door seams and glass for an aircraft inspired look and feel. Only the lower portion of the side windows roll down for a low drag coefficient of Cd=0.29. The rear melts neatly into a layered spoiler and hatchback deck.
Most of these are seen in black, white or dark green but this example looks more exotic in red with aftermarket gold-lined cross-spoke wheels that work somehow. I dig the vibes it's giving.
Inside, occupants are treated to an equally performance-oriented interior of soft curves, flowing side door design, and light-colored plastics. I could do without the wood trim, however.
Just one engine was offered, a 3.3-liter 6-cylinder naturally aspirated engine that provided more power than the outgoing turbocharged 4-cylinder of the XT. A very healthy 231 horsepower was sent to all four wheels for superior traction in all types of inclement weather. All SVX came with automatic transmissions.
Despite its svelte body, decent power and AWD layout, the SVX could be considered a failure. It was much more expensive than any other Subaru at the time with asking prices of over $30k, so the public was hesitant to spend top dollar on them. Just 14,257 were sold here until 1996. Only an additional 10,000 were sold worldwide. Subaru lost $75 million on the SVX. It didn't help Japan was going through the start of an awful economic slowdown that would remain for the rest of the 1990s (and one they really haven't recovered from since).
Despite the lack of a more sporty manual transmission, I think these are awesome. It looks great, handles well in bad weather, and Subaru currently offers nothing else like it. At the very least, it is a classic Japanese car of the 1990s.
This example has only 97,396 miles on it. The seller states it runs and drives great, and the leather has no rips or tears.
Available here on ebay in Mount Olive, New Jersey with bidding at $1,025.
All-Original: 1969 Alfa Romeo GTV 1750
I'd be surprised if this craigslist ad makes it to the end of the day.
The 1969-1971 Alfa Romeo GTV 1750 was based on the 1963-1977 105/115 Series Coupe. Their values have jumped in recent years as their numbers dwindled, rally history was recognized, and general aesthetics have gained a many an appreciative eye.
The GTV 1750 featured many improvements over previous versions. Most notable was the increased engine size. They had 1.8-litre four-cylinder engines powering the rear-wheels.
The Bring a Trailer staff love these cars, as a couple appear every month in varying condition and prices. I didn't understand the appeal until a couple days ago, when they just magically fell into place in my mind. I also saw one for the first time yesterday in dark grey-blue. Rear-wheel drive, classic styling, rally heritage. They do look great, as the boat/bathtub high-beltline Euro shape and quad-round headlights give it almost a BMW look, perhaps even better, and these seemed to have never been slapped with ugly U.S. government mandated 5 mph crash test bumpers. These were designed by Giugiaro in his pre-wedge days.
The seller states this vehicle is all-original plus a few slight performance mods. They say the delicious mustard yellow paint is original, but there is rust in the door sills. They say the floors and jack points are solid, however.
The interior looks stock and fresh with a wood steering wheel and black leather seats.
Mechanically, the seller says it runs and the engine and transmission have low miles.
Hemmings estimates a '69-'74 GTV 1750 Coupe at in fair condition to be worth $8,500, good $15,000 and excellent at $28,500, making this car's asking price of $11,500 seem fair, depending on the underbody and engine specifics.
Find it here on craigslist in Spokane, Washington for $11,500.
Designer Family Sedan: 1990 Eagle Premier ES
The Eagle Premier was the last sedan made by American Motors.
It also bear's Giugiaro's styling. While he is better known for his edgy supercars of the '70s, it continually fascinates me to know he and his Italdesign studio actually sat down in the mid '80s and drew the lines for this ultraconservative family sedan. I love it. It looks great. Although he was no doubt inspired by the Audi 5000, the same philosophy of large, clean, flat planes he applied to two-door coupes is also used here and it works, miraculously. I especially appreciate the luggage rack on the trunk that incorporated the third brake light. We will probably never see these on new cars again but they have a wonderful charm.
This example is an upper-level ES trim, so it has large, comfy looking leather seats and alloy wheels. 1990 was the year they replaced trouble-prone electronics with a more reliable Chrysler system. '90 cars also had four-wheel disc brakes and a stainless steel exhaust system. They also mercifully did away with the 4-cylinder engine and offered just the V6. Unfortunately, they deleted the Design Giugiaro badges but I suppose they could be added on if you grabbed them from a wrecked model in a junkyard.
The seller says they are the original owner and the car has a '92 engine with only 30k miles on it, but is not running. They do say it has been "barn-kept" since 1995.
These were only made from 1987-1991 in relatively few numbers and many get junked every year. This could be chance to grab a neat looking survivor in bright red.
Find it here on craigslist in Piqua, Ohio for $1,500.
Living Large: 15k-mile 1985 Maserati Quattroporte III
The Quattroporte was a full-size executive luxury sedan made by Maserati. The nameplate has been used for their flagship sedans on and off since 1963.
This is the third and perhaps most well known generation, produced from 1979-1990 under the leadership of Alejandro de Tomaso who wanted a car to compete with the Mercedes 450SEL 6.9. This Quattroporte featured a 4.9-litre V8 engine producing around 280 horsepower powering the rear wheels, impressive specs for the day and the right idea. It was mated to a 3-speed Borg Warner automatic transmission.
The body was designed by none other than Giugiaro and features his trademark large flat planes and sharp angles and creases. The long, wide and low shape is somewhat bulky and awkward today, but it's still imposing and you can tell it was an expensive status symbol back in its day. I especially appreciate the relatively low roof and long sloping rear pillar. These are striking proportions that could only work with a boxy shape and is rarely seen today.
The interior is swathed in wood and enormous caramel leather seats. Note the blue-faced instrument gauges, a period Maserati quirk.
The seller states the mileage as an astonishingly low 15,545 miles. They say it just completed a trip between Florida and Massachusettes and is currently owned by an exotic car mechanic as his personal transportation. They imply it is working fine and also has no rust or any other cosmetic flaws. The burgundy paint is original.
With only 2,155 produced, this is a rare and special car. It's more edgy and aggressive looking than Mercedes or Rolls Royce of the era, and probably just as fast. If you're in the market for one, this is the one to have. Put on some Carrera sunglasses, surround yourself with women in bikinis, puff on a cigar and ride off into the sunset.
Find it here on ebay in Medford, Massachusetts with bidding already at $7,200.
The Ultimate Sleeper: 1989 Lancia Thema 8.32
This car is in Canada but it is so cool I can't resist posting. It was one of the fastest four-door sedans in the world.
The Lancia Thema was a relatively mild-mannered front-wheel drive sedan produced from 1984 to 1994 and was based on the Type Four Platform shared with the Saab 9000 and Alfa Romeo 164.
Then, in 1986 Lancia debuted the 8.32, which stood for an 8 cylinder engine with 32-valves from a 2927 cc Quad 4 Cam Ferrari V8. It produced 212 horsepower and rocketed the car from 0-60 in around 7 seconds.
The engine was mated to a 5-speed manual gearbox.
With a body wrapped in Giugiaro's typically boxy and conservative styling and a Ferrari engine underneath the hood, this thing was a wolf in sheep's clothing.
I can't really imagine what this is like to drive. With power being directed to the front wheels, it must give the phrase 'torque steer' a new meaning. But, it's probably a hoot on the freeway.
Styling touches included special wheels and a retractable rear spoiler, among other details.
Inside, occupants were treated to a hand-made wood and leather interior. This one has Alacantra seats. Note the array of nifty round gauges in the instrument cluster.
Only 3,971 Thema 8.32 cars were ever made, and the seller estimates this is one of possibly just two in North America.
Unfortunately, I don't see how anyone in the U.S. could enjoy this example, as the vehicle won't be be legal for importation until 2014 - unless the ban on importing vehicles 25 years old and newer is lifted. Make friends with a customs agent? Just let them test drive it?
Find it here on ebay in Toronto, Canada with a buy it now price of $22,900.
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